openSTA - WAS RE: [Webtest] load tests with WebTest

Christian Sell webtest@lists.canoo.com
Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:44:30 +0100


Hello Bernhard,

I have just started looking into Jelly, and I must say that I am 
thrilled. There is so much neat stuff in there already, that I think it 
would really be a shame to miss out on it.

ANT really isnt ideal for web testing. As has been said, its a targeted 
build language.

I am already looking into "porting" WT over.. Programming Jelly tasks 
does not look difficult at all.

Bernhard Wagner wrote:
> Migrating the ANT scripts.... since they are XML and jelly is XML it might
> be possible to develop an XSLT to migrate them.
> The reason I'd find it interesting to use jelly instead of ant is that I
> would like to script http sessions as easily as I can with webtest, but not
> primarily for testing purposes. Also, I see ANT as a highly targeted build
> programming language, while Jelly looks more like a general purpose
> programming language incorporating Testing utilities natively. But I'm
> probably drifting off-topic.
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts, Sigi, and Christian.
> 
> Bernhard
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
>>[mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Goeschl Siegfried
>>Sent: Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003 15:30
>>To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
>>Subject: RE: openSTA - WAS RE: [Webtest] load tests with WebTest
>>
>>
>>Using Jelly would give the advantage of having a full blown
>>programming language at hand whereas scripting with ANT is always
>>limited .... I just added a few ANT task with a "if" and "unless"
>>clause. And iw would be quite easy to embed Canoo Webtest as
>>Jelly Tag library ... :-)
>>
>>The downside is the Jelly is, well, hard to use sometimes and a
>>little bit buggy. I still haven't figured out complex if
>>statements yet.  Last but not least you still have to support the
>>existing ANT integration .... nobodyis keen to migrate tons of ANT scripts
>>
>>Sigi
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Christian Sell [mailto:christian.sell@netcologne.de]
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:06 PM
>>To: webtest@gate.canoo.com
>>Subject: Re: openSTA - WAS RE: [Webtest] load tests with WebTest
>>
>>
>>hmm, Jelly is one of those animals that I am still having a hard time
>>figuring out (is that what the name indicates?).
>>
>>I suppose in this case Jelly would take the place of ANT, right? What
>>would be the advantages?
>>
>>Bernhard Wagner wrote:
>>
>>>BTW what do you people think of Jelly ?
>>>(http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jelly/)
>>>
>>>What are your opinions seeing Jelly as a candidate to host WebTest?
>>>One problem might be that httpunit and HttpClient (which is
>>
>>used by Jelly)
>>
>>>are somewhat competing in functionality.
>>>
>>>Bernhard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
>>>>[mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Christian Sell
>>>>Sent: Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003 13:39
>>>>To: webtest@gate.canoo.com
>>>>Subject: Re: openSTA - WAS RE: [Webtest] load tests with WebTest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thats the beauty of HttpUnit/WebTest: I can tell it to "click on the
>>>>link which includes the String XXX". It will then parse the response and
>>>>find the appropriate link (including dynamically generated parameters)
>>>>and create a request from it - just as if a user clicked on it. No
>>>>issues with session Ids and the like... Only drawback is I have no
>>>>recording facility
>>>>
>>>
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