[Webtest] Clover prequisite for local builds.

Bill Milbratz webtest@lists.canoo.com
Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:42:27 -0500

I wanted to clarify a few points about clover and webtest

1) Do I need clover to build the webtest .war ? It looks like this works:
   ant clean_compile deploy
but I still get the 'clover definitions missing' message:
  [taskdef] Could not load definitions from resource clovertasks. It could
not be found.

2) If I'm not developing for webtest (i.e. not a committer), can I still get
the 'free clover' if I only use it to build webtest? 
from http://www.thecortex.net/clover/freelicense.jsp  :
 "If you would like to use Clover with your Open Source project, fill in the
form below and we will send you a free licensed version of Clover."


bill milbratz

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeannie Graham [mailto:Jgraham@arrowheadgrp.com]
Sent: April 8, 2004 3:46 PM
To: 'webtest@lists.canoo.com'
Subject: RE: [Webtest] other web testing tools

Thanks Etienne...

I know, I was loving "Canoo" (hee, hee, hee)!   Up until the point when my
dynamic fields and dependent pages just got out of hand.  And without an IF
statement, I just cannot consider it further - which is a shame, since I
already spent two months creating scripts with it.  And the most frustrating
part is that someone has sent in that code, "Enhancements to WebTest" by
stephen peterson, dated Mar, 4, 2003, but I cannot access it (I tried the
.b64 trick and it didn't work).

And yes, I know about the Custom Step feature, but I am NOT a good enough
Java programmer to tackle that.   I have been studying Java in hopes of
becoming better, but unfortunately, not in time to pass this audit.

Thanks for the response,

-----Original Message-----
From: etienne studer [mailto:etienne.studer@canoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:21 PM
To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
Subject: RE: [Webtest] other web testing tools

Hi Jeannie

Wow. That's tough: an audit on Good Friday!

I think it's great to have so many different web testing tools, too. It
enables everyone to find the tool that fits his needs, depending on what he
wants to test, how he wants to describe the tests, and how he wants to run
the tests.

Every tool has intricacies and constraints and in my opinion the important
thing about it is what can be done against them: in webtest, one can browse
the source-code, read the docs, study the examples, execute the selftests,
etc. This should give a pretty good picture of how webtest works and how it
can be used. Many constraints can be tackled through your own webtest
extensions (e.g. custom steps) which are very easy to write and which
integrate well into the framework.

I dont't have a bucket for you. If you need one, perhaps, webtest is the
wrong tool for your needs.

Best regards, Etienne

P.S. The name of the testing tool is 'webtest'. 'Canoo' is the name of the

-----Original Message-----
From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
[mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Jeannie Graham
Sent: Donnerstag, 8. April 2004 18:44
To: 'webtest@lists.canoo.com'
Subject: [Webtest] other web testing tools

Hello out there,

	I hope you Canoo guys don't take offense to this question, because I
think Canoo is great, but it doesn't seem to be matching my needs.   I went
to Google and searched for webtesting tools and was completely overwhelmed,
so I figured I might broach the subject here:

Can anyone enlighten me on other webtesting tools they have used and your
opinion on them?

I was hired to create Canoo scripts, but I don't think the IS managers
realized the intricacies and constraints of Canoo and I have an audit
tomorrow and along with my excuses on why I haven't met project deadlines I
would really like to offer up another solution.

So it looks like my canoo is filling with water, ready to sink.   Does
anyone have a bucket?

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