[Webtest] Re: Announcement: WebTest Result Viewer - alpha ver sion

Erskine, Chris webtest@lists.canoo.com
Mon, 2 Aug 2004 14:28:23 -0500


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Although you are right that a recorder is not the answer for true testing, I
feel that tying a recorder to WebTest can give you the best of both worlds.
You start by recording your scripts.  You add an editor which shows the page
and allows you to highlight the text that you want to verify.  You then edit
the generated script to add the steps that you need that the recorder does
not support.

 

The recorder is just a method to help you get started.  You still need to
maintain your scripts that are generated.

 

Chris Erskine

 

EDS Consulting Services

F5-EDS-001

2424 Garden of the Gods Rd

Colorado Springs, CO  80919

 

Phone: 719-535-6064

 

Phone:

mailto:chris.erskine@eds.com <mailto:chris.erskine@eds.com> 

  _____  

From: Aatish Arora [mailto:a_aatish@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:17 PM
To: webtest@gate2.canoo.com
Subject: RE: [Webtest] Re: Announcement: WebTest Result Viewer - alpha
version

 

A word of caution for recording related stuff Mittie.

Although a recording does sound great and it does impress a lot of people -
including the managers - it isnt quite the way to do test automation. And
this will also be emphasized by almost all Test Papers available on the web.

A recording tool can almost never be as intelligent and as powerful your
scripts can be.

...and defeats the basic aim of automation - to keep costs low cause you end
up recording all the time and almost never can mantain a test suite with the
same.

 

Cheers!

Aatish

Dierk Koenig <dierk.koenig@canoo.com> wrote:

Sure, the goal is to collect some feedback before putting it
in the distribution. I think this will take a few weeks.

The long-term goal is to provide other small gizmos like this
and bundle them to an application suite. The technology is perfekt for
doing this. Other gizmos may be:
- Click-O-Mat
a MaxQ-like Recording Tool for WebTest.
A first version is running but needs some spit'n polish before
it can be released.

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not the answer for true testing, I feel that tying a recorder to =
WebTest can
give you the best of both worlds.&nbsp; You start by recording your
scripts.&nbsp; You add an editor which shows the page and allows you to
highlight the text that you want to verify.&nbsp; You then edit the =
generated script
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support.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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Aatish Arora
[mailto:a_aatish@yahoo.com] <br>
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2004 1:17
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w:st=3D"on">webtest@gate2.canoo.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Webtest] =
Re:
Announcement: WebTest Result Viewer - alpha =
version</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>A word of caution for recording related stuff =
Mittie.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Although a recording does sound great and it does impress a lot =
of
people - including the managers - it isnt quite the way to do test =
automation.
And this will also be emphasized by almost all Test Papers available on =
the
web.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>A recording tool can almost never be as intelligent and as =
powerful
your scripts can be.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>...and defeats the basic aim of automation - to keep costs low =
cause
you end up recording all the time and almost&nbsp;never can mantain a =
test
suite with the same.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<br>
<b><i><span style=3D'font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Dierk Koenig =
&lt;<st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">dierk.koenig@canoo.com</st1:PersonName>&gt;</span></i></b> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sure, the
goal is to collect some feedback before putting it<br>
in the distribution. I think this will take a few weeks.<br>
<br>
The long-term goal is to provide other small gizmos like this<br>
and bundle them to an application suite. The technology is perfekt =
for<br>
doing this. Other gizmos may be:<br>
- Click-O-Mat<br>
a MaxQ-like Recording Tool for WebTest.<br>
A first version is running but needs some spit'n polish before<br>
it can be released.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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