[Webtest] Clickbutton with index not working

Lisa Crispin webtest@lists.canoo.com
Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:52:19 +0000


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I agree, you have to make some assumptions to be able to move ahead in a timely manner.  To me, the benefits of the HtmlUnit conversion outweigh inconveniences like this that can be addressed as they come up.

It might be worth searching the archives for a particular feature to see if anyone asked about it before, if so, they are possibly using it now (someone suggested the index locator to me after I posted asking for ideas to handle a problem).  This might produce more accurate info than a poll would.

We have fixed most of our Javascript problems and are very happy someone took the trouble to do this HtmlUnit migration.  I'm sure it was a great deal of work.  If nothing else, it has forced us to improve our Javascript code!  Thank you!
-- Lisa



-------------- Original message from Marc Guillemot <mguillemot@yahoo.fr>: -------------- 


> Hi, 
> 
> some "useless" thougts too: 
> - the htmlunit migration is not completed, therefore it's normal that not 
> everything works as desired now 
> - the htmlunit migration is a "big" step, therefore the occasion to identify and 
> remove old stuff that is not 
> needed/interessant anymore 
> - if a feature is tested in the selftests, we can assume that the need of this 
> feature is checked. If no test fails when 
> removing this feature, then we can assume that the feature was useless... or the 
> tests not good enough. 
> - users in general and in this case webtest users often first complain when they 
> have a problem. Just a few users answer 
> to a poll and just a bit more take care to deprecations. The move to htmlunit 
> would take years if I had waited for 
> result of polls for all questionable points. 
> 
> Marc. 
> 
> Dierk Koenig wrote: 
> > some "useless" thougts: 
> > - the feature was introduced at some time. Chances are that was not by 
> > accident but it was considered useful at that time. 
> > - if the feature has no use in the selftests, there also is the option 
> > to enhance the selftests 
> > - it is awfully hard to foresee how features are used. "useless" assumes 
> > they are not used. It would take a poll to verify that assumption. 
> > - before removal a "deprecation" time is of good use 
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<DIV>I agree, you have to make some assumptions to be able to move ahead in a timely manner.&nbsp; To me, the benefits of the HtmlUnit conversion outweigh&nbsp;inconveniences like this that can be addressed as they come up.</DIV>
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<DIV>It might be worth searching the archives for a particular feature to see if anyone asked about it before, if so, they are possibly using it now (someone suggested the index locator to me after I posted asking for ideas to handle a problem).&nbsp; This might produce more accurate info than a poll would.</DIV>
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<DIV>We have fixed most of our Javascript problems and are very happy someone took the trouble to do this HtmlUnit migration.&nbsp; I'm sure it was a great deal of work.&nbsp; If nothing else, it has forced us to improve our Javascript code!&nbsp; Thank you!</DIV>
<DIV>-- Lisa</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message from Marc Guillemot &lt;mguillemot@yahoo.fr&gt;: -------------- <BR><BR><BR>&gt; Hi, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; some "useless" thougts too: <BR>&gt; - the htmlunit migration is not completed, therefore it's normal that not <BR>&gt; everything works as desired now <BR>&gt; - the htmlunit migration is a "big" step, therefore the occasion to identify and <BR>&gt; remove old stuff that is not <BR>&gt; needed/interessant anymore <BR>&gt; - if a feature is tested in the selftests, we can assume that the need of this <BR>&gt; feature is checked. If no test fails when <BR>&gt; removing this feature, then we can assume that the feature was useless... or the <BR>&gt; tests not good enough. <BR>&gt; - users in general and in this case webtest users often first complain when they <BR>&gt; have a problem. Just a few users answer <BR>&gt; to a poll and just a bit more take care to deprecations. The move to htmlunit <BR>&gt; would take years if I had waited for <BR>&gt; result of polls for all questionable points. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Marc. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dierk Koenig wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt; some "useless" thougts: <BR>&gt; &gt; - the feature was introduced at some time. Chances are that was not by <BR>&gt; &gt; accident but it was considered useful at that time. <BR>&gt; &gt; - if the feature has no use in the selftests, there also is the option <BR>&gt; &gt; to enhance the selftests <BR>&gt; &gt; - it is awfully hard to foresee how features are used. "useless" assumes <BR>&gt; &gt; they are not used. It would take a poll to verify that assumption. <BR>&gt; &gt; - before removal a "deprecation" time is of good use <BR>&gt; _______________________________________________ <BR>&gt; WebTest mailing list <BR>&gt; WebTest@lists.canoo.com <BR>&gt; http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/webtest </BLOCKQUOTE>
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