[Webtest] Re: Bug trackin tool for webtest?
Lisa Crispin
webtest@lists.canoo.com
Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:36:49 +0000
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I personally haven't felt the need for a bug tracking tool for WebTest, but I only use the basic functionality, I'm not trying to do anything very sophisticated with it. I agree with Mittie, there really aren't so many bugs that the overhead of a bug tracking tool is worthwhile. Also, if there's a bug that affects a lot of people, there will be lots of postings to the mailing list about it, which will alert someone capable of fixing the bug that it's a high priority.
-- Lisa
-------------- Original message from "Dierk Koenig" <dierk.koenig@canoo.com>: --------------
> I used several bug-tracking tools (Remedy, ClearQuest, Peregrine,
> Bugzilla, Gnats, Jira) and I found them all more difficult to use
> than a mere Wiki Page.
> Sure, when you have to manage a large amount of bugs then you may
> need such a support, but I always felt that entering bugs is
> really complicated. What type of bug is it? What part of the
> system is concerned? What is its priority? and so on
> Most of the time I don't know what to fill in and what happens
> if I fill in nothing or something wrong.
>
> Watching the bug-fixing activities of an open-source project
> can definitely reveal something about the project.
> (Not only how active they are, but also how buggy the
> Software is.)
>
> cheers
> Mittie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
> > [mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Marc Guillemot
> > Sent: Freitag, 7. Januar 2005 13:47
> > To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
> > Subject: [Webtest] Re: Bug trackin tool for webtest?
> >
> >
> > I fear that it's too basic and to complicated: to enter a bug a
> > user needs to create a new page as well as to update the
> > overview page.
> >
> > Furthermore, a bug tracking tool can be used by visitors to see
> > the activity of the project: how many issues opened and
> > fixed in the last x months.
> >
> > Marc.
> >
> > Dierk Koenig wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Yes, having such a tool is sometimes convenient.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, installation, maintenance, etc. again add
> > > to the workload. So it needs to pull its weight.
> > >
> > > Currently we only have few Bugs open in Canoo WebTest and everything
> > > that is not immediately solved and is in jeopardy of being lost
> > > can be added to
> > > http://webtest-community.canoo.com/wiki/space/Bug+Reports
> > > This solution has the additional benefit, that you can google for
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Do you think, we need more than that?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Mittie
> > >
> > >
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
> > >>[mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Marc Guillemot
> > >>Sent: Freitag, 7. Januar 2005 10:59
> > >>To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
> > >>Subject: [Webtest] Bug trackin tool for webtest?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>what about making a bug tracking tool available on webtest website?
> > >>
> > >>Currently the problems reported on the mailing list have a high
> > >>risk to be lost if not quickly solved. A special tool (à
> > >>la bugziall, mantis, jira or other) would allow users to query
> > >>existing bug reports, to enter new ones if they find some
> > >>news issues and for developers it would give an overview of the
> > >>current problems.
> > >>
> > >>Marc.
> > >>
> > >>_______________________________________________
> > >>WebTest mailing list
> > >>WebTest@lists.canoo.com
> > >>http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/webtest
> > >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > WebTest mailing list
> > WebTest@lists.canoo.com
> > http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/webtest
> >
>
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<DIV>I personally haven't felt the need for a bug tracking tool for WebTest, but I only use the basic functionality, I'm not trying to do anything very sophisticated with it. I agree with Mittie, there really aren't so many bugs that the overhead of a bug tracking tool is worthwhile. Also, if there's a bug that affects a lot of people, there will be lots of postings to the mailing list about it, which will alert someone capable of fixing the bug that it's a high priority. </DIV>
<DIV>-- Lisa</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message from "Dierk Koenig" <dierk.koenig@canoo.com>: -------------- <BR><BR><BR>> I used several bug-tracking tools (Remedy, ClearQuest, Peregrine, <BR>> Bugzilla, Gnats, Jira) and I found them all more difficult to use <BR>> than a mere Wiki Page. <BR>> Sure, when you have to manage a large amount of bugs then you may <BR>> need such a support, but I always felt that entering bugs is <BR>> really complicated. What type of bug is it? What part of the <BR>> system is concerned? What is its priority? and so on <BR>> Most of the time I don't know what to fill in and what happens <BR>> if I fill in nothing or something wrong. <BR>> <BR>> Watching the bug-fixing activities of an open-source project <BR>> can definitely reveal something about the project. <BR>> (Not only how active they are, but also how buggy the <BR>> Software is.) <BR>> <BR>> cheers <BR>> Mittie <BR>> <BR>> > -----Original Message----- <BR>> > From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com <BR>> > [mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Marc Guillemot <BR>> > Sent: Freitag, 7. Januar 2005 13:47 <BR>> > To: webtest@lists.canoo.com <BR>> > Subject: [Webtest] Re: Bug trackin tool for webtest? <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > I fear that it's too basic and to complicated: to enter a bug a <BR>> > user needs to create a new page as well as to update the <BR>> > overview page. <BR>> > <BR>> > Furthermore, a bug tracking tool can be used by visitors to see <BR>> > the activity of the project: how many issues opened and <BR>> > fixed in the last x months. <BR>> > <BR>> > Marc. <BR>> > <BR>> > Dierk Koenig wrote: <BR>> > > Hi, <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Yes, having such a tool is sometimes convenient. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > On the other hand, installation, maintenance, etc. again add <BR>> > > to the workload. So it needs to pull its weight. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Currently we only have few Bugs open in Canoo WebTest and everything <BR>> > > that is not immediately solved and is in jeopardy of being lost <BR>> > > can be added to <BR>> > > http://webtest-community.canoo.com/wiki/space/Bug+Reports <BR>> > > This solution has the additional benefit, that you can google for <BR>> > > it. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Do you think, we need more than that? <BR>> > > <BR>> > > cheers <BR>> > > Mittie <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > >>-----Original Message----- <BR>> > >>From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com <BR>> > >>[mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Marc Guillemot <BR>> > >>Sent: Freitag, 7. Januar 2005 10:59 <BR>> > >>To: webtest@lists.canoo.com <BR>> > >>Subject: [Webtest] Bug trackin tool for webtest? <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>Hi, <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>what about making a bug tracking tool available on webtest website? <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>Currently the problems reported on the mailing list have a high <BR>> > >>risk to be lost if not quickly solved. A special tool (à <BR>> > >>la bugziall, mantis, jira or other) would allow users to query <BR>> > >>existing bug reports, to enter new ones if they find some <BR>> > >>news issues and for developers it would give an overview of the <BR>> > >>current problems. <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>Marc. <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>_______________________________________________ <BR>> > >>WebTest mailing list <BR>> > >>WebTest@lists.canoo.com <BR>> > >>http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/webtest <BR>> > >> <BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________ <BR>> > WebTest mailing list <BR>> > WebTest@lists.canoo.com <BR>> > http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/webtest <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> WebTest mailing list <BR>> WebTest@lists.canoo.com <BR>> http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/webtest </BLOCKQUOTE>
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