[Webtest] the happy old and New Year
Edgar P Dollin
webtest@lists.canoo.com
Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:41:28 -0500
I applaud the idea of writing a book about webtest. It is clearly the best
http/html open-source testing tool out there.
If you choose to do write a book, it would be helpful to stick in some stuff
about designing your application for testability. In other words it is
really easy to write web pages that are nearly impossible to test, while
there are ways of writing the same functionality, which are easy to test.
Edgar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dierk Koenig [mailto:dierk.koenig@canoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:17 PM
> To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
> Subject: RE: [Webtest] the happy old and New Year
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm very happy that you think Canoo WebTest is worth writing a
> book about it.
>
> A few thoughts that cross my mind:
>
> I would love to have the community involved, especially the
> advanced practicioners.
>
> Time and availability is always a problem. For me and for you.
>
> I accompanied the creation of a lot of books but never wrote one
> myself. There seems to be a lot of work beside "writing".
>
> The book needs to be written in english. While my german writing
> is considered fairly good by most readers, I really struggle with
> writing in english. (I'm sure you already recognized that :-)
>
> I would definitely like to write more than just about the WebTest
> technical issues: how to organize automated functional tests,
> how to deal with test data, how much effort to expect for getting
> the automation running, the key elements of success, the typical
> misconceptions, some stories from the field, ...
>
> A good size of the book would be about 150 pages, like the books
> of the pragmatic series.
>
> so much for now
> Mittie
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
> > [mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Etienne Studer
> > Sent: Freitag, 31. Dezember 2004 19:54
> > To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Webtest] the happy old and New Year
> >
> >
> > Hm. What about having a book on WebTest? Mittie is a good writer ;-)
> >
> > http://www.sourcebeat.com/TitlesAction.do
> >
> > --Etienne
> >
> >
> >
> > Matt Raible wrote:
> > > The move to using HtmlUnit was a huge plus for me. It
> allowed me to
> > > test many JavaScript-rich applications that I wasn't able to test
> > > before. It also found a fair amount of XHTML errors in
> my code - which
> > > is a really cool feature. I've used both jWebUnit and WebTest and
> > > WebTest now has a nice advantage with its better JS
> support. I use
> > > WebTest to test the UI in AppFuse (http://appfuse.dev.java.net)
> > and I've
> > > written about it (and how to use it) as part of Spring Live
> > > (http://www.springlive.com). I think you're going to see
> a lot more
> > > interest as folks become aware of it and start to use it
> to test their
> > > JSF and Tapestry applications. It's truly a great
> framework. Keep up
> > > the good work!
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 30, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Dierk Koenig wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hiall,
> > >>
> > >> New Year's Eve is the moment to look back on what has
> > >> happend around Canoo WebTest the last 12 months and
> > >> what is possibly to come.
> > >>
> > >> First of all, I want to give a big THANK YOU to
> > >> everybody in the community. All of you contributed
> > >> to the success of this project, be it by asking
> > >> about puzzles on where the implemention or the docs
> > >> need improvement, be it by answering questions on
> > >> the mailinglist, be it by contributing to the
> > >> community site and last not least by contributing to
> > >> the WebTest core.
> > >>
> > >> Between the major achievements of 2004 were:
> > >> - Marc's big effort on moving towards HtmlUnit
> > >> thus covering JavaScript much better
> > >> - Etienne's integration of testing PDF docs
> > >> - Denis' integration of testing Applets
> > >>
> > >> The newly founded community site prooved to be
> > >> a useful pool for collecting extension steps made by
> > >> practioners for practicioners. Special Thanks to
> > >> Paul for sharing his experience here.
> > >>
> > >> The statistics of the WebTest distribution and
> > >> community sites show an increasing interest in
> > >> the project around the world. Over the last 6
> > >> months the binary distribution was downloaded
> > >> 6000 times with tendency to rise. We see about
> > >> 1500 visits a day.
> > >>
> > >> Some work started in 2004 that is likely to be
> > >> completed next year:
> > >> - Documentation improvement by using xdocs
> > >> - finalizing interactive ResultViewer
> > >> - finalizing the Click-O-Mat recorder
> > >> - bringing the selftest coverage back to > 98%
> > >>
> > >> It is difficult to foresee what else will come
> > >> in 2005.
> > >> Some potential WebTest users reported initial
> > >> hurdles with writing tests in XML, preferring either
> > >> table-like structures or scripting languages.
> > >> We may see that WebTest extends its current support
> > >> for these paradigms.
> > >>
> > >> I guess all of you would be able to add some
> > >> new ideas here.
> > >>
> > >> So, stay tuned and enjoy
> > >>
> > >> A HAPPY NEW YEAR
> > >>
> > >> Mittie
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