[Webtest] the happy old and New Year
Dierk Koenig
webtest@lists.canoo.com
Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:28:46 +0100
Hi Edgar,
thanx for the flowers.
Design for testability definitely needs to be covered. Thanx for
the reminder.
Should we also have a list of "best practices" like:
- use plain html where possible (as opposed to JavaScript, Applets, ...)
- tag by meaning (<table id="customer_revenues"...)
- use html validators
- ...
?
It would be great to have the community assemble this list.
cheers
Mittie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
> [mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Edgar P Dollin
> Sent: Sonntag, 9. Januar 2005 13:41
> To: 'webtest@lists.canoo.com'
> Subject: RE: [Webtest] the happy old and New Year
>
>
> I applaud the idea of writing a book about webtest. It is
> clearly the best
> http/html open-source testing tool out there.
>
> If you choose to do write a book, it would be helpful to stick in
> some stuff
> about designing your application for testability. In other words it is
> really easy to write web pages that are nearly impossible to test, while
> there are ways of writing the same functionality, which are easy to test.
>
> Edgar
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dierk Koenig [mailto:dierk.koenig@canoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:17 PM
> > To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
> > Subject: RE: [Webtest] the happy old and New Year
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I'm very happy that you think Canoo WebTest is worth writing a
> > book about it.
> >
> > A few thoughts that cross my mind:
> >
> > I would love to have the community involved, especially the
> > advanced practicioners.
> >
> > Time and availability is always a problem. For me and for you.
> >
> > I accompanied the creation of a lot of books but never wrote one
> > myself. There seems to be a lot of work beside "writing".
> >
> > The book needs to be written in english. While my german writing
> > is considered fairly good by most readers, I really struggle with
> > writing in english. (I'm sure you already recognized that :-)
> >
> > I would definitely like to write more than just about the WebTest
> > technical issues: how to organize automated functional tests,
> > how to deal with test data, how much effort to expect for getting
> > the automation running, the key elements of success, the typical
> > misconceptions, some stories from the field, ...
> >
> > A good size of the book would be about 150 pages, like the books
> > of the pragmatic series.
> >
> > so much for now
> > Mittie
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
> > > [mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of Etienne Studer
> > > Sent: Freitag, 31. Dezember 2004 19:54
> > > To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Webtest] the happy old and New Year
> > >
> > >
> > > Hm. What about having a book on WebTest? Mittie is a good writer ;-)
> > >
> > > http://www.sourcebeat.com/TitlesAction.do
> > >
> > > --Etienne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt Raible wrote:
> > > > The move to using HtmlUnit was a huge plus for me. It
> > allowed me to
> > > > test many JavaScript-rich applications that I wasn't able to test
> > > > before. It also found a fair amount of XHTML errors in
> > my code - which
> > > > is a really cool feature. I've used both jWebUnit and WebTest and
> > > > WebTest now has a nice advantage with its better JS
> > support. I use
> > > > WebTest to test the UI in AppFuse (http://appfuse.dev.java.net)
> > > and I've
> > > > written about it (and how to use it) as part of Spring Live
> > > > (http://www.springlive.com). I think you're going to see
> > a lot more
> > > > interest as folks become aware of it and start to use it
> > to test their
> > > > JSF and Tapestry applications. It's truly a great
> > framework. Keep up
> > > > the good work!
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 30, 2004, at 6:34 AM, Dierk Koenig wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hiall,
> > > >>
> > > >> New Year's Eve is the moment to look back on what has
> > > >> happend around Canoo WebTest the last 12 months and
> > > >> what is possibly to come.
> > > >>
> > > >> First of all, I want to give a big THANK YOU to
> > > >> everybody in the community. All of you contributed
> > > >> to the success of this project, be it by asking
> > > >> about puzzles on where the implemention or the docs
> > > >> need improvement, be it by answering questions on
> > > >> the mailinglist, be it by contributing to the
> > > >> community site and last not least by contributing to
> > > >> the WebTest core.
> > > >>
> > > >> Between the major achievements of 2004 were:
> > > >> - Marc's big effort on moving towards HtmlUnit
> > > >> thus covering JavaScript much better
> > > >> - Etienne's integration of testing PDF docs
> > > >> - Denis' integration of testing Applets
> > > >>
> > > >> The newly founded community site prooved to be
> > > >> a useful pool for collecting extension steps made by
> > > >> practioners for practicioners. Special Thanks to
> > > >> Paul for sharing his experience here.
> > > >>
> > > >> The statistics of the WebTest distribution and
> > > >> community sites show an increasing interest in
> > > >> the project around the world. Over the last 6
> > > >> months the binary distribution was downloaded
> > > >> 6000 times with tendency to rise. We see about
> > > >> 1500 visits a day.
> > > >>
> > > >> Some work started in 2004 that is likely to be
> > > >> completed next year:
> > > >> - Documentation improvement by using xdocs
> > > >> - finalizing interactive ResultViewer
> > > >> - finalizing the Click-O-Mat recorder
> > > >> - bringing the selftest coverage back to > 98%
> > > >>
> > > >> It is difficult to foresee what else will come
> > > >> in 2005.
> > > >> Some potential WebTest users reported initial
> > > >> hurdles with writing tests in XML, preferring either
> > > >> table-like structures or scripting languages.
> > > >> We may see that WebTest extends its current support
> > > >> for these paradigms.
> > > >>
> > > >> I guess all of you would be able to add some
> > > >> new ideas here.
> > > >>
> > > >> So, stay tuned and enjoy
> > > >>
> > > >> A HAPPY NEW YEAR
> > > >>
> > > >> Mittie
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