[Webtest] Bug trackin tool for webtest?

Dierk Koenig webtest@lists.canoo.com
Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:10:53 +0100


Wow! This is a convincing pleading!

Thanx for your offer to support the installation.
Unfortunately, our infrastructure is not designed to offer
webspace that way. It seems I now have to bite the bullet
and do the installation.

Anyone who wants to help is asked for keeping the
_content_ of the BTT (Bug Tracking Tool) as
concise, up-to-date, and duplication free as possible.

cheers
Mittie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com
> [mailto:webtest-admin@lists.canoo.com]On Behalf Of kay@hallo.ms
> Sent: Samstag, 8. Januar 2005 11:26
> To: webtest@lists.canoo.com
> Subject: [Webtest] Bug trackin tool for webtest?
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> Happy New year!  (getting a bit old already eh? ).
> And thanks for the great support of webtest to all contributors!
> 
> I vote for a bugtracker. 
> 
> 1) I think the wiki is not very accessible wh.r.t  bugs since 
> people have first to get used to the snipsnap wiki dialect. If 
> you want to communicate a bug, that is not what you are waiting 
> for. Also I have the impression that among the users of the 
> webtest wiki there is a lot of confusion on how it is intended to 
> be used: Who may edit what? And whether to put comments or 
> directly edit the text for example. Or who is responsible or 
> entitled to cleanup outdated stuff. (Don't misunderstand, I am 
> passionate of wiki use in projects.)
> 2) The wiki may be an innovative and convenient way to 
> communicate about bugs, but it is a quite unusual one. This 
> means, that for newcomers, it is not easy to understand its place 
> and intention in the project. (Especially because there are so 
> few bugs registered) I asked myself seeing it the first time: Is 
> this page abandoned? Will someone notice it? Where is the REAL 
> bug administration?
> 3) About hosting. If you don't have time to set it up or 
> administrate it, why not ask for some space on sourceforge or 
> some other OpenSource host? If you can supply me with webspace at 
> canoo, I am also willing to set it up for you (e.g. Bugzilla). 
> 4) I agree about the overkill of features, that often distract 
> from the task if you want to keep it simple. But most of the time 
> there is a way to configure the tool in order to limit that. For 
> example for webtest you could only allow the bugs to be submitted 
> for one category and with the default priority. Since many tools 
> are open source simple adjustments to the html page could 
> eliminate a lot of unused options. Apart from that, once a bug is 
> inserted in a tracking system, posting comments about it is 
> normally very straightforward.
> 5) Definitely, in terms of history and search/query these systems 
> are better than the wiki. They may even replace in many cases 
> tedious screening of the mailing lists if you want to know 
> whether someone had the same problems as you. 
> 6) A very strong feature of issuetrackers that is not standard 
> yet but may become so in the near future, is the possible 
> coupling with the versioning system. This allows for example for 
> a certain bug to see by one click how the fix was implemented in 
> the code. Or to link even to a test that proves the fix. I think 
> this coupling would also be worth considering for the future of 
> the webtest project.  At the moment the effort required to 
> implement/configure this is considerable, but with subversion it 
> should be easier to implement. (You think about moving to 
> subversion don't you? ).
> 7) Lisa has a strong argument, that posting issues on the 
> mailinglist is much more direct and you don't feel the dust of 
> administration this way.  On the other hand, one could configure 
> the issueTracker to post to the mailing list too!
> 
> 
> ... its getting a whole book if I continue - sorry.
> Kay
> 
> 
> 
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